@34, lol what? Half day? I'm either at work, getting ready for work, traveling to work, or coming from work for 12 hours of the day. The rest s either sleeping, hanging out with friends or spent in classes. I do have my computer on while at work which is probably while I'm idoling, but idol does not equal being active.
Look. It's not intentional that I put off the poll for so long. Like I said, my plate is full. Sometimes we make plans and things come up that make it impossible to fulfill those plans. There's also the reality that this place is draining. I don't mean to make it sound like I hate all of you or something, because I don't, I think the majority of you are perfectly fine. It's just draining in thesense that most of the threads that become active here usually result in the same 2 or 3 people stirring the pot and contributing absolutely little to nothing of value. This thread is a good example. @Jonathan is raising valid criticisms, and if I were in his shoes I'd probably be doing the same. But I refer to, for example post 39, who straight up said they only live for the chaos.
I'll make the poll when I get home later and it'll run until Sunday or Monday or something. I don't want to make it from remote because this app already lags, plus remote lag.

So add points to the rules that will allow them to be banned. Sorry, you can't be very open and complain that people are doing what they're doing. Either strict rules and deleting unnecessary posts, or it will stay as it is.
People complained about me deleting unnecessary posts, spam and all the clutter. You complained too. It wasn't my meaningles actions, but a method I developed over years of experience. Now you can see for yourself what a forum looks like when it isn't cleaned up from posts published for spam or drama.
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most of the threads that become active here usually result in the same 2 or 3 people stirring the pot and contributing absolutely little to nothing of value.
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Counterpoint, Alchapers as head Admin.

Ok, so basically a typical post, just with the right amount of randomly sidebashing everything and everyone you can think of. Anyway, he may have a point, but how to express it is another.
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Honestly I'd rather waste my time on creating polls here than spending it on sbyw chat, with a comunity that hates the fuck out of some people, just saying. Jonathan is right, honestly. That's no lashing out, though admitedly, some of you are more softer than others, and that's ok. For a fact though, he said he'd already get to it. He could've just said there's not gonna be a poll given on the reactions or whatever, nevermind. And all'd be fine. I have other things to think about but just saying Jonathan got a good point.

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It seems like we're finally realising why English forum always ends up being a mess and how there should be more, not less policy on here, because a couple people can't behave themselves and yet, somehow they end up determining the direction of the community, so hmm.

I think the problem is a lot of people left since we transitioned to this new forum. Like, we had something like 50 or so people who voted in the first poll, and I think the last poll I did barely scratched 25. So, by default the toxic people have a louder voice just by virtue of there being overall less people. 3/25 is twice as impactful as 3/50, after all.
I still believe the policy I chose is the best one. Excessive sensorship does nothing

Deleting post is never a good idea. It is a pain for transparency because if you just delete something the community has to trust the admins that what was deleted was actually delete worthy. Even on elten we have so many examples on how this can fail dramatically. That we have still people advocating for this is, to say it kindly, completely ununderstandable.

Go vote.

@47, completely agree. As an admin, I can tell you. Never, trust, an, admin. No matter how much you know, like, or have faith in them. They lie, they make mistakes, and... Die. Well maybe not, but they can end up leaving and being replaced. Like, who would have ever guessed we'd have transitioned from Dash to Jacob and then to... Alex...
Thing is, when making community rules, you should always assume that your admins are tyranical dictatorial assholes who only want to wave their flag.

@49 i agree. And even if your current admins are not, you must always be careful not to make rules that could be abused by ffuture staff members.

So now we need to consider why they left at that time.
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I think the problem is a lot of people left since we transitioned to this new forum.
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what i believe is that as i said before, it's because the ammound of turn arounds that this community did in only the last 3 years. Plus the platform we are running on.