a question about Android and Talkback

I agree with Arctic moon. What exactly do you lose or not get from apple's so called walled garden? I don't feel that I lose anything, everything what I needed was on the appstore.
Instead of bashing apple, android fans should finally ask google why did they need so long to add native braille support to tb, why is tb slowing down the systems, when it could be as snappy as voiceover. I am not a fan of open source, copyleft and other foolish ideas. Google sells you that freedom ideas, that you're free blah blah blah, while trapping you in their clenches and tracking everything you do. Apple's walled garden is an open space compared to google's traps.

Exactly, Chris. One more thing that android hasn't added yet is the ability to in fact, set up the phone alone. I mean wtf? If I'm a blind person living alone or I'm without any sighted help, I want to use my phone alone. I want to configure it alone.

Exactly. And the accessibility will just get worse. Xiaomi, huawei and other chinese phone companies only abide by the accessibility standards because the west is still in power and the idea of everything being accessible comes from the west. When china becomes world's 1 power, which I hope never happens, all accessibility in chinese products will go because of their sick anti western stance, where everything from the west has to disappear. They still abide because they have to, not because they want.

Thats just not true. I was able to setup nearly every android device without sighted help. Some special devices might exist where the default accessibility setup gestures won't work, but most mainstream manufacturers don't block them. Since Android 8 you can hold both volume buttons to switch on TalkBack, Samsung devices as always are a little different, but they have similar gestures. So why don't you just keep using your prefered devices and let other people make their own experiences? I'm totally happy with Android, and also have an iOS device. Android is my primary mobile OS since 2016, but I can understand why people prefer apple devices.

I mean, let's be real here, I actually also have an amazon fire tablet. VoiceView is ok, sometimes it lags, sometimes it doesn't. And you know what might make the screen reader faster? Turning the sound feedback off! That's what I did! It'll make things faster seriously! I have also messed with someone's android phone before with talkback. One thing I don't like, is the vibration, or haptic feedback with talkback. I don't really like that. It just feels weird. Sorry, but no.

I don't think that was haptic feedback it's just a regular motor

@ 23 lmao. that's just not true at all

have nothing against Android but am on IOS myself and have also been on android for 5 years so I know how it feels like. And no, I would never pay anything to someone from China, I would just recommend you to use the crack for the premium version from BHP. It gets constantly updated so you're not left behind.

what's wrong with paying to someone in China if they make a good product?

Cracks are not allowed here

lmao @ 21 that's not true at all, that's opposite in this case. and you do know apple tracks you as well? so google isn't the only one

Except the fact that the crack has some kind of lib kaushik, which is a bit weird to be honest. This information is from programmists who decompiled the thing and saw what's inside.
On the other hand, the developer of Jieshuo does a good job and well deserves his money he gets from his customers. What an attitude you have, seriously.

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have nothing against Android but am on IOS myself and have also been on android for 5 years so I know how it feels like. And no, I would never pay anything to someone from China, I would just recommend you to use the crack for the premium version from BHP. It gets constantly updated so you're not left behind.

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