ArcticMoon
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First I wanted to post this in games, but then I realised it has nothing to do with exact games or anything, so it ended up here.
I'm raising a very interesting question about programming ethics, and I'm really curious to see how you folks view all of this.
There's a guy who creates various mods for different games using AI, and he talks about it openly. That's not the problem, don't worry, it's just something you need to know. Other people can also create these same mods this way, of course, if they have a subscription. The guy has Patreon, and it has three different tiers. Supporter, Requester, and something in between, but I don't remember the name. The most important one here is the Requester. It costs a ton, but you can ask the guy to create a mod for any game. These games sit in a queue until the guy finishes his other projects.
There's a very popular game. The game is in the requests category. He created a modding environment, created an input handler, and that's basically it; even the tutorial doesn't work completely. Another person is also interested in the game, well, that's why it was requested by others, of course. But the mod isn't being developed; the game has been sitting in the requests category for about two months now. Today, the interested person downloads all the dll files and the input handler, fixes all the bugs in the mod, implements new features, fixes the whole tutorial, and adds full keyboard and gamepad support.
And then tells the guy the whole story:
"Hi [Name], sorry for bothering, but I decided to help you out with insert game name here. I fixed this, this, and this too, and I plan to keep going because everything works perfectly." Of course, in a more detailed and polite manner, but the game shouldn't be revealed for now. And the guy writes back:
"I'm not against it, but as you can see, the game is in my requests and I plan to work on it as soon as my other projects are done. So, will I be able to use your fixes in my project later? I'm not forcing you to stop working, but I came up with the project."
And this is exactly the question. If the guy didn't know that someone was already working on this mod, would his reaction have been the same? And does he seriously think that others who worked on this using their own subscription will let him make money off it, especially if he wasn't the one who did the main part?
What do you think, is this ethical, especially in the world of AI?
Let's debate, but stay civilized, please.
I'm raising a very interesting question about programming ethics, and I'm really curious to see how you folks view all of this.
There's a guy who creates various mods for different games using AI, and he talks about it openly. That's not the problem, don't worry, it's just something you need to know. Other people can also create these same mods this way, of course, if they have a subscription. The guy has Patreon, and it has three different tiers. Supporter, Requester, and something in between, but I don't remember the name. The most important one here is the Requester. It costs a ton, but you can ask the guy to create a mod for any game. These games sit in a queue until the guy finishes his other projects.
There's a very popular game. The game is in the requests category. He created a modding environment, created an input handler, and that's basically it; even the tutorial doesn't work completely. Another person is also interested in the game, well, that's why it was requested by others, of course. But the mod isn't being developed; the game has been sitting in the requests category for about two months now. Today, the interested person downloads all the dll files and the input handler, fixes all the bugs in the mod, implements new features, fixes the whole tutorial, and adds full keyboard and gamepad support.
And then tells the guy the whole story:
"Hi [Name], sorry for bothering, but I decided to help you out with insert game name here. I fixed this, this, and this too, and I plan to keep going because everything works perfectly." Of course, in a more detailed and polite manner, but the game shouldn't be revealed for now. And the guy writes back:
"I'm not against it, but as you can see, the game is in my requests and I plan to work on it as soon as my other projects are done. So, will I be able to use your fixes in my project later? I'm not forcing you to stop working, but I came up with the project."
And this is exactly the question. If the guy didn't know that someone was already working on this mod, would his reaction have been the same? And does he seriously think that others who worked on this using their own subscription will let him make money off it, especially if he wasn't the one who did the main part?
What do you think, is this ethical, especially in the world of AI?
Let's debate, but stay civilized, please.